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Yunior Savon's avatar

Great post Sarah! Thank you for sharing.

My ordering would be Delish, DuoLingo and MyMedic (๐Ÿ˜ฒ). haha

DuoLingo toned it down after they went public, but it still retains a little bit of an edge that I enjoy.

I think nagging patterns are bad, but equally bad is relegating an important setting to a menu that is buried multiple levels down and only giving the option to elect at signup. This is especially annoying, if it is something controlled at the system level or by the OS, as is the case with notifications on iOS.

Haha kudos on the word play. Heisenberg would be proud. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Sarah Nohe's avatar

Thanks Yunior. So many dark patterns to talk about - had trouble choosing three! May have to do a round 2 to talk about Zuckerberging and Fake Urgency!

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Yunior Savon's avatar

Thank you. Those two patterns and maybe some light ones could be interesting for a round two indeed.

However, I did not express myself correctly. What I meant is that a notification such as X's call to action to turn on notifications, if it had a clear opt out so as not to qualify as nagging, could prove useful to some users who made a mistake setting up an app. But my point is moot because clearly X's intent is to nag and drive more user engagement. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Sarah Nohe's avatar

yes, understood! There is was an interesting Nagging case from instagram I read a white paper on while researching for this newsletter. Some of the nuance is talked about there as well, you may like to check it out. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Example-of-nagging-behavior-on-Instagram-where-a-modal-dialogue-provides-no-opportunity_fig1_322916969

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Yunior Savon's avatar

Thanks, Sarah! That was a good read. One of the great points they make is the disconnect between the academic and the practitioner community. Notably absent is the disconnect between those two cohorts and the legislative community... it is only mentioned tangentially in the context of developing an ethics framework. That too could be an interesting topic to dive into?

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Sarah Nohe's avatar

Absolutely. Seeing what laws that are already in place was pretty eye opening when compared to current practices

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